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MORE WHITEWATER FILES FOUND
CHALLENGE TO WASH POST, MEDIA
ALLEGED TYSON LINKS TO DRUG SMUGGLING

Jan. 17, 1995

As promised on January 13, 1995, Mike Reagan hosted Larry Nichols
again on his radio talk show January 17 (the Michael Reagan Show).
Larry Nichols promised to release more documents concerning
Bill Clinton's earlier political campaigns,
and does so in this broadcast with Mike Reagan.

Included is a document which for the first time ties Bill Clinton
(in contrast to his wife, or the MacDougals) directly to Whitewater.
Some of these documents have been denied to a grand jury investigation
of Clinton's campaign finances, Nichols says.
Nichols also charges that some moderate Republicans are scheming to keep
a politically wounded Bill Clinton in office until 1996
for political purposes, that the Washington Post may be
sitting on the Mena story because of a deal involving
electronic networks and the GATT trade agreement bill rider,
and challenges the media to request any Clinton campaign
document.

Transcript follows (any errors mine).

-s-

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MORE WWATER FILES FOUND

MR
... I was telling you earlier about Larry Nichols.  Talked to him
last week.  We talked about Donn Tyson who has become a true bosom buddy
of Larry Nichols.  In fact, during the course of today's show, I imght,
I might just share with you the letter from Donn Tyson to Larry Nichols
and then the letter back to Donn Tyson from...  Well, let me, let me just
share it with you.

Donn Tyson wrote a letter to Larry Nichols concerning the information
that he puts out that it was disturbing uh to have it come to his attention
all of this information that Larry has shared with different talk show hosts
across the country.  And so the letter was dated July 21, 1994.
He talked about "...this disturbing report has come to my attention
you are being quoted in a publication called
"For the People News Reporter" dated June 27, 1994
as having talked to a talk show host named Chuck Harder
on June 9, 1994, something called "For the People" broadcast."
It goes on and on. He says will you give me the courtesy
of a, a definitive reply.  Yours truly, Donn Tyson.

Then there was an open letter to Donn Tyson from Larry.  It says:
"Dear Mr. Tyson:
If you're wondering whether I have said what you have asked in your letter,
I have, and will continue to do so.  You ask why, but you should know
the answer, it's because it's all true.  So that you understand
the reason why I am doing this, it's because of your friend Bill Clinton.
You've used him to build your company at the expense of Arkansas,
and you plan to do the same for America.  I've enclosed a couple of
documents from the Arkansas State police files and other agencies.
These are already all over the nation.  I will tell the truth about
you and Bill Clinton.  So that you know, people from the FBI,
the Arkansas State police and the Drug Enforcement Agency have
told me not to mess with you because you have money and power
and would have me killed.  You're now on notice, fire the shot
whenever you want, I can't stop you.  I can only tell you
to call ahead of time and get my schedule.  It may be tough
to fit you and yours in between talk shows but I'm sure
something can be worked out.  Let's do lunch.
Love, Larry"

As you can see, Donn Tyson and Larry Nichols are not the best
of friends.  And we talked about that last week, but also Larry
said he was sending me some forms that supposedly at one time
were burned and disappeared in the state of Arkansas, but somehow
they burned and disappeared, they disappeared into the files
of Larry Nichols.  Larry, you with me, buddy?

LN
You bet, Mike.

MR
Nice letter!

LN
(chuckles) Well, you know us dumb Arkies, I don't -- don't hardly know
how to write good.

MORE WWATER FILES FOUND

MR
I am looking at a code of ethics disclosure form,
and it's from the office, a position held in government:
Governor.  Name: Clinton, William Jefferson.
and it's the ah, it's the code of ethics disclosure form.
And he talks about at this point-- list the name and address
of any corporation, firm or enterprise in which you have
a direct financial interest of a value in excess of $1000 provided
that ah, that policies of insurance issued to you or your spouse
are not to be considered financial interest.
And the name Whitewater Development Company, Incorporated,
Suite 900, 212 Center Street, Little Rock, Arkansas.

This isn't supposed to exist, Larry.

LN
Isn't that something?  And the date of that, Mike, I believe, is 1984.

MR
January 31, 1984.  Paul Revere, Secretary of State.

LN
Yeah...

MR
So, what am I, what am I gleaning from this?  Am I gleaning from this
that at one point in time, he had nothing to do with Whitewater,
but in 1984, he had ev-- he was the only one who had anything to do with it?

LN
Right, and you'll notice, and I asked everybody to go back
when we first started bringing up Whitewater, he had nothing, he said,
quote-unquote, I had nothing to do with that, that was a development that
my wife was involved in.  Now, on many of the disclosure forms
I have, you will notice, when he and Hillary are jointly involved,
it's he and Hillary.  That one don't say Hillary anywhere, does it?

MR
No, it does not say Hillary anywhere.  It's interesting that the signature
that signed off on this, the signatuure of the official for verification,
I do hereby solemnly swear, that the foregoing code of ethics
disclosure form filed herewith is in all things true and correct,
signed by (clears throat) Betsey Wright.

LN
(chuckles) You know, you know, Mike, it's amazing to me, and you
know this for a fact, all the big reporters in the world,
in the mainstream media, said that didn't exist.  And you
got it in your hands.  Not only do you have that in your hand
and I do apologize because there-- the documents so much as
kind of overwhelming, and I'm trying to cherry pick and get ones
that you will find specifically interesting,
but you have the cover page for many of the campaign reporting forms
that were filed in 1984.  And for (unintelligble-- doubtings?),
those files don't exist.  Those were the ones that were burned.

MR
These are the ones that were burned.   Of course, the next one
down is the disclosure form for Betsey Wright, signed by Bill Clinton.

LN
Right.  You know, I don't know what else to do,
uh, the forms from the day one that Bill Clinton
ever ran for office, I have.

[just please don't get yourself shot and listed as another Arkansas
suicide, Larry-- s.]

MR
Let me ask you a question, because I know you took
many of the forms when you left ADFA, and you talked about--
with me about the boxes of documents you have.
But you seem to have over the course of the last 18 months
that we have been talking more files have come into your hands.

And, and I'm asking you this question, as, as, as things start to unwind
in Washington, D.C., they have to also be unwinding slowly but surely
in the state of Arkansas.  And everybody seems to be getting
ready to cover their posterior.  Based on the fact that you were the one
that has been out there on the front side of this, ahead of the curve
the whole, the whole period of time, I can only imagine that people
are now giving you documents to cover their own posteriors
because this whole operation is coming to a screeching halt.
Am I right?

LN
That's-- that's absolutely true.  As a matter of fact,
just tonight, since I faxed that stuff to you, a man called me
that his plane had been used, you know, with the DEA.
I mean, I get calls now, I get documents now that are incredible.
I mean even to me.  But you have to understand that a lot
of the research, and a lot of the stuff, and I guess this is the
hardest thing for your audience, back in '89, Bill Clinton
was all powerful.  He had everything.  They didn't bother to hide
anything.  You could go around and pick up everything you wanted
it was only in 1990 when they started drafting their game plan,
did they go around and start gathering all of this data, and they
started burning it, shredding it, and whatever else they are doing.
So people have documents and since I have come in some way
the focal point of the game, obviously now, stuff that just blows--
blows me out of the water just comes to me.

MR
So-- so, what you and I talked about earlier in the day was
that you were just basically challenging the, the mainstream press
to ask for whatever document they want and you will deliver
that document to them, the documents that they have said never existed.

LN
Right.  I-- I want to say on your program, and out of respect to you,
any mainstream media-- and I know they listen to your program
all over America from coast to coast-- any mainstream media
can call you and they can say "give me this record for that date
or for this date."  And then, if I can't give it to them,
I would ask you to come on the air, and say Larry Nichols
was requested for this document and he could not produce it.

MR
All right, Larry, stay with me, I've got to take a break.
We'll come back, I'll just ask you a couple of more questions, ...

LN
Sure.

MR
... and then I'm going to go to calls.  Thanks a lot for joining me again.
I know it's later where you're at than where I'm at.

We're talking with Larry Nichols.  My name is Mike Reagan.
This is the Michael Reagan Show.  We'll be right back.

(break)

ALLEGED TYSON LINKS TO DRUG SMUGGLING

MR
We're back here, buddy, it is 33 minutes past the hour.
Mike Reagan here and you are there.  Date: October 24, 1980.
Dictated by: Investigator T_____.
County: Washington.
Source of information: confidential informant.
Topic of information: narcotics traffic and homicide.
Date typed: October 29, 1980.
We'll get back to Larry in just a moment.

But just to give you an idea that you remember when Donn Tyson
stepped down, or is stepping down on his 65th birthday,
and this from 1980, the following information was received
from a confidential source whose reliability has not been established
at this time, dissemination of this information is restricted,
the confidential source related to me that they had been present
at a party in Washington County when a drug deal was being made.
They advised Sheriff H___ M_______, Donn Tyson, H_____ J____, R_____ T_____,
and a s-- and a subject by the name of M_____ who was also present.
They also related that they had been told on Monday after G___ V_____
was killed that she was unconscious when she was killed.
They also related that they had been told that R__ F______
had confessed to Sheriff M_______ that he had run over
G___ but it was an accident, for they were both high on acid.
They also related that they had been told that R__ F______ had failed
three polygraph tests.  And it goes on, and on, and on, about
old Donn Tyson and some of the people that he has been in touch
with before.  There's a Sergeant C__ which advised that he received
information for an informant who told that Donn Tyson
of Tyson Food Industries of Springfield, Arkansas, owns
a company aircraft which was being utilized to smuggle drugs from Florida
to Springdale.  This was a, ah-- this was a criminal investigation
from 10-26-1981 by a Sergeant S_______, in Pulaski County.  And you wonder
why Donn Tyson stepped down.  Back to you, Larry, sitting there in--
in Arkansas, and I keep on asking you, why, why, why, why, why?

But it just seems to me that with the news that Tyson is stepping down
and the other information being brought forward that is unwinding
very quickly.

LN
Well, I want to-- to announce on your program that there's a change
in my strategy...

MN
(chuckles)

LN
... No one on earth knows this until now.  That's why I've been wrassling
with this for two weeks, Mike.  You know, it was my original plan
to pull out a little bit at a time.  Now I find out that many
of the moderate Republicans, as it were, want to prolong this thing,
as they say, to keep Clinton , you know, going, so they can have him
as a candidate in '96.  That'll never stand.  Within the next three weeks,
I will provide you with a video, that in three differ-- oh, by the way,
the documents that I sent you tonight...

MR
Yes.

LN
... were requested by the grand jury, and were denied, saying they
they did not exist.

The present jury looking into Bill Clinton, ...

MR
All right.

LN
... his campaign ethics, they couldn't get that stuff.

But anyway, ah, I'll provide you on three different venues,
absolute, documented proof, of everything I've ever said.

MN
Well, lemme ask you a question.  Let's go back to those
moderate Republicans real quick.  Aren't they in some way--
aren't they in, in some ways right, I mean my, goodness gracious,
if they can keep Bill Clinton with his head above water, in the weak position
that he's in, my goodness gracious, does he become an easy candidate
to run against in 1996?  If, if a guy like Larry Nichols,
with all this information out there, is able to knock him out of the box now
and have him be indicted in 1995, Al Gore assumes the presidency,
he's got a cleaner r-- you know, cleaner background, cleaner reputation
(even though it's like a tree) compared to the president that
we have now, is that in the best interest of the Republican Party,
is that in the best interest of the country?

LN
Well, it may be in the best interest of the Republican Party.
It's absolutely not in the best interest of the country,
because imagine this, Mike, you know politics, imagine Bill Clinton
signing off on everything the Repulicans pass.  Here comes 1996.
He says, you know, hey, what kind of President to you want?
I've done everything, I've done all the bipartisan stuff...
And then you've got the other thing.  How do *you* know,
that the media, in 1996, will use the stuff that they have?
They didn't use it in '91, and they had it then!

CHALLENGE TO WASHINGTON POST, MEDIA

MR
Absolutely.  And we've talked about that, because yet,
I have still not seen the story from the Washington Post.

LN
Right.  I mean, I'm telling you they're sitting with it
in their computer!  Now, I might add, I've been skeptical
about it coming.  And you know why, because in the GATT treaty--
I don't understand what happened-- but somehow the Washington Post
benefitted from some of the electronics network or something in GATT.

MR
Absolutely.

LN
And then I'll tell you something that will scare you even more.
In 1990, we have the records, in 1990, the federal government,
you and I, gave Donn Tyson 1. --I think it is 7-8 million dollars
to advertise Tyson Foods overseas.

MR
Yeah, but we do that, I mean, that's not out of line.

LN
Right, I'm--

MR
That is not out of line.  We've been doing that.
We do it for Coca Cola, we do it for MacDonald's, we do it for a lot
of companies.

LN
Right, lemme tell you, I'm not saying it is out of line.
I'm saying that if you doubt Donn Tyson has clout
with the Republican Party, even though we do it for Coca Cola, even
if we do it for others, you don't --if you're a hardened Democrat--
get that kind of perk from a Republican administration.

MR
Well, that, ah, that, I would, ah, I could debate that with you
because you have a lot of companies that play both sides of the fence,
because they want to make sure whoever's in power, they're enabled
to have themselves be empowered, to be able to do business as usual
in the areas that they do business, so you see there's a lot of times,
they'll cut a check to the Democratic Party, the Republican Party.
Now, depending on who's in power at that point, it's going to be more
to one party than to the other, but they can always say, "Well, I gave
to your campaign," and of course, the Republicans or Democrats
all, you know, say, "My goodness gracious, I better be nice
to this person ..."

LN
Well, see, you-- you just outlined the problem.  Jack Stevens,
Stevens Investments, Donn Tyson, and every smart businessman or company
in the world, when it comes to politics, they play both sides--

MR
Absolutely.

LN
They're not going to get caught out there betting on one race horse
and losing it all.

MR
Absolutely.  I mean, that's the way the game is played;
that's the way politics happens.  And-- and-- and so on and so forth...

LN
Well, Mike, this is our country.  Every document that the media
has to call you to ask me for...  Every document that they have
to call me, within a matter of week or two your audience can have it.
The people can have it.  But the mainstream media, if they want to play
hardball, if they think I'm bluffing...  They've got to call you.
And if I'm bluffing, you've got to tell your audience,
hey, Larry was a good old guy...

MR
But, Larry, you know that the media is more concerned
about the 4.5 million dollars that, you know, Newt Gingrich
might have gotten for a book deal than they are interested
in any of the files that you might have.  Just--
I mean, even though it was reported these files burned,
they do not exist, and now you're proving that they do exist,
that's not news.  The news is that we have to demean and demonize
Newt Gingrich.

LN
Well, that's how the media sees it.  But again, do you know,
who the media has to-- when everything is said and done.
Your audience are the people that buy the newspapers
or the people who watch the TVs.  You know, I'm putting myself
out there as a dead duck.  The media can nail me in a heartbeat.
If the media does not call you, and try to stump me, pick any year,
Mike, they can pick any year, and choose a document,
and if I don't deliver, the I-- my credibility is gone.  But if they
don't call you, then we will be able to say from coast to coast,
when they say, well, we didn't have the information, the information
was not available to us.  For the first time, I hope,
we're going to pop off a meteor or two.  They better damn well
call you.  'Cause if they don't even call, this stuff doesn't supposedly
exist, but I have it, then I think we can look with a pretty good eye
at what really for the first time is going on with the media.

MR
You got it.  Listen, Larry, thanks for the time with you, buddy,
I'll talk with you in the next couple of days.  You stay clean, will you?

LN
You bet.

MR
Larry Nichols, checking in with us from Arkansas, yet more files...
Where does he get them all?

I'm Mike Reagan, we'll be back...

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